Excursus: Comments Foregrounded
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The following comment was from Cloud-Hidden, Whereabouts Unknown but it was buried in the post labelled 'And Don't Forget'. I would very much like to be in touch with you, but I can't find an email for you and there are several Cloud-Hiddens using this name!
The following comment was from Cloud-Hidden, Whereabouts Unknown but it was buried in the post labelled 'And Don't Forget'. I would very much like to be in touch with you, but I can't find an email for you and there are several Cloud-Hiddens using this name!
He/she writes:
"Ross warns in the introduction of the book against the facile use
of the words “mystic” and “mysticism,” and indeed, one of her most consistent
targets is the idolatry of experience that characterizes so much spiritual thinking
and activity in our day."
I am so glad we are in the same ship. What do you think of the word
"spiritual" today? Was Jesus "spiritual?" And the word is
so very seldom seen in the NT, at least in the Greek and when it does it means
contextually "in the [person of the] Holy Spirit," not just some
"spiritual" thingy it seems to me. What do you think? I don't think
of you as "spiritual," if you know, see, what I am trying to say...
p.s., you don't have to publish this comment, but I wouldn't mind an email.
I'd really like to know your thoughts after all these years.
Dear Cloud-Hidden,
I'd be happy to send you an email but I don't have your email address!
If you will send it in a comment headed DO NOT PUBLISH that would help!
I have come to LOATHE the word 'spiritual' almost as much as I abhor the
word 'mystic'. To give you an example: I was recently invited (it will become obvious why I refused) to participate in
a kind of spirituality/prayer fun-fair that is being held at our local
theological college. Here is the ad from the diocesan rag:
'The Festival of Prayer 2012 is a day conference for those who would like to taste or delve deeper into different ways of praying. It builds on the success of the first festival last year.'
'Taste?' even worse, 'success'? 'Festival'? Clearly it is not God who is being celebrated!!! These words caused my imagination to shift into its most satirical key:
'The Festival of Prayer 2012 is a day conference for those who would like to taste or delve deeper into different ways of praying. It builds on the success of the first festival last year.'
'Taste?' even worse, 'success'? 'Festival'? Clearly it is not God who is being celebrated!!! These words caused my imagination to shift into its most satirical key:
'Hur-ry. hur-ry, hurry! Step right up ladies and gents; try being a
Carmelite. You'll never believe what you are about not to see. Here, Lady,
maybe you'd like to flirt with Ignatian spirituality instead? Some of the
fantasies will surpass your most lurid dreams. And you, sir, perhaps you'd like
to be fitted on the procrustean bed of a so-called spiritual director?' Or
maybe you'd like to walk our little labyrinth that leads to the beer stand....'
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PS I am very honoured that you don't think of me as 'spiritual'. I don't
think Eckhart or Pseudo-Denys would have like the word, and Jesus would have
cast it out with his shoe.
Yes to 'in the person of the Holy Spirit' or how about 'manifesting the
Holy Spirit'? or 'in the presence of the Holy Spirit' (which is one of the
reasons all the debates about who can celebrate the Eucharist are absurd as
anyone can be in that presence if they open themselves, but a lot of the
ordained most certainly are not open!).
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