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Thursday, February 14, 2013
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Hi Maggie, I really found your book engaging and thought provoking. I was somewhat surprised to see that Richard Rohr's comments were included as a recommendation to your work given his ideas on contemplation which draw heavily on Thomas Merton's insights. In discussing contemplation, Rohr mines extensively Merton's writings on the Real and the False Self, concepts which can cause considerable confusion. However some of this confusion is dampened when I am reminded of Merton's comment to Brother David Steindl-Rast that " You have to see you will and God's will dualistically for a long time. You have to experience duality for a long time until you see it's not there. " In the end the problem of duality disappears. William Shannon in his book, Thomas Merton's Dark Path,sums up clearly Merton's Apophatic way,
"But no one knew better than he that life is not a matter of concepts or of words... Life is opening yourself to experience- first to this experience and that; and finally to Experience Itself... For him, God was the burning mystery of Reality. God was the Great Experience beyond all experiences."
Take care Maggie and thank you for your Blog, I find it so refreshing and a joy to read. Kevin
No one was more surprised than I that the publisher obtained an endorsement from him, since Rohr and I are poles apart and he, like Merton, appears to be stuck on the idolatry of experience, true self/false self fallacy, etc. I doubt very much from the little I have read that Rohr has a clue what my work is about.
As far as David Steindl-Rast goes—well, I won't start; let's just say I know him far better than I would like.
'God is the Great Experience beyond all experiences' —gawd, I hope not, because if that is all God is, then we are worshipping nothing but a projection of our own narcissism.
Thanks, Kevin, forgive my waspishness! It's such an uphill struggle.
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I wonder what Maggie thinks of Richard Rohr!
It was kind of him to respond so generously to the publisher's request.
Hi Maggie,
I really found your book engaging and thought provoking. I was somewhat surprised to see that Richard Rohr's comments were included as a recommendation to your work given his ideas on contemplation which draw heavily on Thomas Merton's insights. In discussing contemplation, Rohr mines extensively Merton's writings on the Real and the False Self, concepts which can cause considerable confusion. However some of this confusion is dampened when I am reminded of Merton's comment to Brother David Steindl-Rast that " You have to see you will and God's will dualistically for a long time. You have to experience duality for a long time until you see it's not there. " In the end the problem of duality disappears. William Shannon in his book, Thomas Merton's Dark Path,sums up clearly Merton's Apophatic way,
"But no one knew better than
he that life is not a matter
of concepts or of words... Life
is opening yourself to
experience- first to this
experience and that; and
finally to Experience Itself...
For him, God was the burning
mystery of Reality. God was the
Great Experience beyond all
experiences."
Take care Maggie and thank you for your Blog, I find it so refreshing and a joy to read.
Kevin
Dear Kevin,
No one was more surprised than I that the publisher obtained an endorsement from him, since Rohr and I are poles apart and he, like Merton, appears to be stuck on the idolatry of experience, true self/false self fallacy, etc. I doubt very much from the little I have read that Rohr has a clue what my work is about.
As far as David Steindl-Rast goes—well, I won't start; let's just say I know him far better than I would like.
'God is the Great Experience beyond all experiences' —gawd, I hope not, because if that is all God is, then we are worshipping nothing but a projection of our own narcissism.
Thanks, Kevin, forgive my waspishness! It's such an uphill struggle.
Blessings,
Maggie
Hi Maggie , Thanks for the response! There is nothing to be forgiven.
Kevin
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